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It has not been officially confirmed which
of the two hostages was killed.
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http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=2723
Source: BBC
Iraqi police has found a headless body in an orange jumpsuit
in the Tigris River in Baghdad, the U.S. military has said.
A military spokeswoman said Iraqi police had discovered the body and
handed it over to the U.S. forces.
It is not clear yet if the corpse belongs to a Bulgarian hostage
beheaded by an Iraqi group on Monday.
The kidnappers have threatened to kill the dead man's Bulgarian
colleague unless Iraqi prisoners are released.
Reuters news agency quoted the Bulgarian Foreign Minister Solomon
Passy as saying efforts were being made to identify the headless body
"by all possible means, by DNA tests and fingerprints, etc".
His deputy, Gergana Grancharova, said fingerprints from the body were
being sent to Bulgaria to check if the dead body is the Bulgarian
hostage.
In the meantime a separate Iraqi group holding a Filipino hostage in
Iraq has said Philippine troops must pull out of Iraq by the end of July
– extending the deadline of 20 July.
In a statement posted on Al-Jazeera, the group said it would release
the hostage when the last Philippine soldier leaves Iraq. It has
threatened to kill the hostage if their demand is not met.
Al-Jazeera showed video footage of the hostage, Angelo de la Cruz,
thanking his government for pulling out of Iraq and saving his life.
The man's voice was not heard and the date of the video wasn’t clear.
Despite being under pressure from the U.S. and Australia, Manila has
agreed to withdraw its troops from Iraq.
Al-Jazeera has also received a video recording of the Bulgarian
hostage's death, but it refused to broadcast the graphic sections of the
tape.
The video showed the Bulgarians - wearing an orange garment similar
to those worn by other foreign hostages before they were killed -
kneeling in front of three masked men dressed in black.
It has not been officially confirmed which of the two hostages was
executed.
However, reports suggest it was Georgi Lazov, 30, who was captured in
northern Iraq along with Ivaylo Kepov, 32.
The captors' deadline for the execution of the second hostage expired
on Wednesday at 2000 GMT but there has been no word on his fate.
Full coverage...
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Bulgarian hostages held in Iraq
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| i am sorry to hear the news on this
innocent man and i hope the other man will set free, but unlikely the
bulgarian government still bowing to usa pressure to stay in iraq. my
question to these governments who sent their troops to iraq, if they
don't and can't have the will to help their citizens, how do they expect
the world to beleive that they are in iraq to help iraqies. iraq is
destroyed already and it is in big mess thank to those who participated,
i wonder what type of people who run these governments and how they are
so irresponsible towards their own citizens and let them die like this
because of usa. i repaeat i really how they could help iraqies when they
can't help their own citizens. |
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| will say what i wrote before.americans
our sons lay in grave yard all over this world defending and liberating
countries.now they speak out against us and turn on us.they feel distain
for us and always will.if not for us most of you would be goose
marching.be proud to say i am american for it is the best there is.as
for the headless body what is there to say.it just shows the element we
are dealing with.all this will pass and we will still stand strong.stick
by your country and hold your mouth if you have nothing good to say
about it for you live in freedom and never, never, take that for
granted.god bless the united states of america. |
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| ibrahim, i completely agree with you that
bulgarian troops and citizens had no business in baghdad, but this
problem cannot be solved by killing innocent people. those who commited
this crime are not people, they are animals and i hope that they will
die in the same savage way - this is the only thing they deserve. and it
is a shame for the people in iraq and all muslims that they accept
people like these terrorists to act on their behalf. |
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| ibrahim; yeah your really sorry alright
you puke! first of all your patting these freedom fighters on the back
for their cause against the us and then you say you feel sorry for the
guy. man your just full of it. obviously the coalition is their to help
the people of iraq and if you cant see that give it up. ibrahim your one
sick person youy can't see the light because the blackness of your heart
blinds you. |
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| ibrahim, you are missing the point. the
governments that have sent their troops to iraq have them there to help
iraq build their strength. how does bowing to these terrorists help
anyone. its not that these countries don't care or don't want to protect
their own people. its that if they give in these terrorists will think
their plan is working. by the way, iraq is no more messed up than before
the us's march. this country is on its way to democracy. if these
cowardly terrorists would just let everyone finish their job, iraq could
really start a new life. get over why the us went there. that was wrong
and there isn't anything that will change it. what is needed is support
from the world in how everything is now proceeding. the temp. gov't is
doing its job and will soon be replaced by elected officials by the
iraqi people! |
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| i think the iraqies need to do what ever
they can do to get those invaders out of their country. it's never a
good news when people die,but it's war.i'm proud of the mujahinins doing
everything they can to get those invaders out. by the way that guy
wouldn't have bean beheaded, but the bulgarians didn't want to save him
by taking their troops out of iraq. if an iraqy was captured the
mujahidin would try to save him. |
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| george. you are missing out on the whole
concept of democracy. your attitude of " stick by your country and hold
your mouth" is a slap in the face for every viable democracy. every body
does not only have the right but also the duty to speak out against
artrossities committed against the will of the people. most warmongerers
have still not caught on, but the latest opinion poll from cnn clearly
put's the majorities of americans against this illegal war. so maybe it
is time for you to start speaking up also and do something for the
country your soldiers are litterally sodomizing. donate some of your own
money to make up for your countrys crimes. |
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| to george from canada..while i appreciate
your heartfelt passion for any and all things american (except freedom
of speech) many people view political dissent a healthy part of the
democratic process...by the way..winston churchill attacked his
government over the 1938 munich pact it signed with hitler. i don't
think anyone views churchill as anything less than a british icon...he
was passionate enough to speak out and change events for the
british...peace. |
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| first of all the us is not in iraq to
liberate the iraqi people, anyone who belives this should join the
coalition and see exactly what the us idea of liberation is, then see if
you hold the same opinion. saddam and chemical ali gassed about 5000 of
its own and terrerized many others. us now uses this for its purpose to
invade iraq since every other motive has been proven untrue. if the us
cared so much for innocent lives why do the stand by and watch whats
happening in suddan where natives are being exterminated by the hundred
of thousands? (actions backed by its govenment.)know why? cause us could
give a mad **** about them. second of all why when ever a us citizen
critisizes its government for its wrong doing, the blind faithfull
americans are quick to say leave this great country or hold your mouth.
is not free speech right. hipocracy |
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| usa wants to form iraq the way its want.
they want to build it the way they want. they want to make its people
say what they want. they want iraqi people to believe that usa is
helping them. they want the entire world to obey them and do what they
ask for. going to iraq was only to steal the oil and rape its people. we
all saw the abu-graib prison scandal. iraqi people do not want usa or
any other country to form their country and pretend that they are
helping them; in fact they are destroying their land and raping and
killing its people. we do not want you there. leave..leave..leave… |
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| it is funny how the canadians are so
mouthy and anti-american - when in fact they would be nothing without
the us protection and support. talk about biting the hand that feeds
them. anyway, this beheading behavior is the classic sign of a gutless,
cowardly mentality - pathetic and weak. if the troops went home, that
would only reinforce the cowards and murderers. that is why bush is so
good. he knows you have to step on a roach to kill it, not talk sweet to
it. wake up. |
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| any one tell me that these occupying
forces are there to help iraq, i wish they could give me one evidence
about this. however if these ivadors want to help iraq they should first
take a cource in arabic to learn the language and the culture and
understand 5000 years of civilization what means, iraq was stable and
safe country before usa start interfeering in its affairs, usa trying to
change the culture and language and the demographic structure of the
country, they brought punch of escapees from saddam whom know nothing
but hate him they never been in iraq last 30 years and they expect them
to bring democracy to iraq and keep its arabic id and muslim face. this
is genocide, any iraqi who still have alive consius will do the same to
free his country and save his culture and people from all the criminals
even if it is to beheading. |
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| don't forget that the iraqi resistance
has set a price on "al-zarqawi´s" head. the real freedomfighters in
iraq, fighting a (in their eyes) just cause trying to drive out an
occupying force, condemn these beheadings of foreign hostages. there are
basically only two people who like, and benefit from, this nightmare of
beheadings on videotapes - bush and sharon (and their zioneocon friends
in tel aviv and dc). bush loves to see this because it justifies
continued occupation and makes abu ghraib look less bad. sharon loves
this because "it shows the true nature of arabs (palestinians)", etc...
therefor i'm not 100% sure that this is done by "arab terrorists". it
could just as well be a longrunning black/false flag ops carried out by
the cia/mossad. we know for sure that mossad operates in iraq. and
they've done things similar to this before. |
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| until any of a number of countries in the
middle east draw a sharp line between chruch and state, we will continue
to see violence and abuse of human rights. the problems of the middle
east existed long before dubya and the usa arrived, and they'll be there
long after dubya leaves office and the marines pack up and go home,
unless individual arabs refuse to let a minority of religious zealots
and violent extremists hijack the common person's spiritual faith. |
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| poor stupid arabs(including ibrahim),if
you went some more at school you should know that in bulgarian history
the most bloody period is the turkish(islamic) slavory-the last
bulgarian being beheaded was at 1876;you may ask the turkihs which
remained in bulgaria what happened later on...anyhow we shall overcome
two more heads as we overcame thousands and thousands,but arabs living
in bg...are kindly invited to leave,the goodwill is over,what has been
developed for a century-has been destroyad in a day,now two heads and
two beheaded bodi es stay between-this is the real border between the
civilization and the primiti ve lands and no matter what the politics
speak...i can't remember bulgarian tro- ops have killed anybody in
iraq,i can't remember what they destroied,you basta- rds shall kill each
other and the irony is...for nothing |
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| the one who wants al-zarqawi's head is
not iraqis or iraqi goverment. it is uss..duuh. usa hates everyone who
faces them. god bless you zarqawi and we will with you. |
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| csh: you are exactly right; agree to
dis-agree. it's his freedom to say shut up, but it's yours to say no.
robert: yet again i find you spouting stupidity....sodomizing. and don't
use cnn for your purposes now when you say nothing but negative comments
about the western media and how we are all fooled. just keep on
believing everything you read here because this news source is
true......ha. i am going to hate myself for saying this, but you are
right about war reparations but are off base about the sodomizing. base
it on fact guy, or don't type it. if you would like to build a wall
between us and canada go ahead....and then enjoy the 90% unemployment
headed your way. kamel : god bless...salmon rushdie |
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| sparky, are you and puke from puk****le
related? same mentality. you have to learn the diference between
anti-american and disgust. what your countrys actions are portraying is
not what your constitution is all about. freedom for all? you do not
even want to hear anybody speak up criticising your regime.right away
yankees get ranzi. right now ,the disgust for collateral action is on
the rise all over the world. this is what eventually w i l l turn into
hate. just because we do not agree with your illegal war does not mean
we are anti american. but anybody who will not agree with you guys whole
heartedly must be an enemy, right? that sure sounds like something
another air head said when he was looking for accomplices to ki11
innocent civilians. we have brains, something you as a bush supporter
obviously know nothing about! |
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| to marcus and robert,t.y.for appreciating
my passion for my country.but we are at a point where it does not help
to go against your own.i beleive in free speech as much as i belive in
freedom but not at the cost of american lives.when i read the jews
control america i relize we are dealing with illiteracy.and i am not of
jewish decent so dont all start yelling.but if they were in control bush
would not be president and al gore would be.for the jews fought in the
deciding state of florida to elect gore.but it matters not for the
states policy would remain the same.i fought in vietnam in 69 and alot
of polls also show we lost to the decent of our people at home against
that war also.right or wrong there is a time we must support our
country.that is how i feel and will always.by the way i like canada i am
working here.good luck to you both. |
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| ibrahim, you have got to be joking?
please try and use a more evolved thought process and humane opinion
when you are seemingly accepting of the beheading of this innocent man
from bulgaria. so do you and others like you ever think logically rather
than operate on assumptions and react based on those assumptions whether
they are accurate or not? i have often wondered why it is the
progressive thinking counntries, like the usa, and others that seem to
be where people like you choose to live or receive their educations.
these are the same countries who are asked to share their modern
technologies in countries like iraq to improve daily living conditions
there, because they are incapable or can't figure out how to do it for
themselves. - part 1. |
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| terrorists sure do terrible things. this
action to bulgarian dude can never be justified. however, the deaths of
12000 innocents can never be justified either. loss is a loss. what
remains is a task to rebuild iraq; either the way usa wants or people of
iraq want, both ways don't seem too bright to me. situation only seem to
be getting worse. let's see... now for americans, serious explanation is
needed from your admin regarding the mess: an intractable war, the loss
of allies and international good will, a half trillion dollar deficit.
meanwhile all i can do is praying for those victims of the war. please
rest in peace dear bulgarian friend. |
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| ibiriham from canada, you evidence of
coalition forces helping iraq? getting rid of saddam, rebuilding their
crumbling infrastructure, it is the foreign fighters and insurgents who
make things bad for them. you do not see the usa pulling up in a car and
blowing people up, you do not see the usa cutting peoples heads off,
yeah i will admit that whole prison scandal was fcked up. bu really
ibriham, you should know that it is the insurgents and foregin fighters,
even alot of the clerics know that. come on man, you really dont think
the usa is there to destroy them, if they were, iraq would have been a
sand box in the first day of the war. |
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| ibraham - what has the arab or the
mujahadeen ever done for the iraqi? -other than succed in killing even
more iraqis then the british or americans who they are supposed to be
targeting. if the mujahadeen can not learn to shoot straight or blow up
bombs in the right places, -or build schools and help get electricity
back, i say they should go back to the madrassas and 'terrorists
training camps' until they can learn to do all of the above . . -in the
right way. -do you think? |
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| you folks that think that the us is over
there slaughtering innocents do not understand what's going and have
never been there. i have been there and all of the violence committed by
the us after 1 may 2003 has been in self defense and retailiation from
resistant terrorist fighters. we have no goal of killing innocent
civilians...none. i you people knew the amount of planning and thought
that goes into minimizing civilian injusries and death before an
operation...you may not have the same opinion of the situation. if the
terrorist activities stopped...the us would not fire another round of
ammunition. |
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| kevin. thanks again for proving my point
about your mental capacity. you dont like the term" sodomizing"? well
that was done in your illegal prison camps. since the term ****ually
assaulted has become part of our regular focabulary, nobody pays any
attention anymore. i guess it is just part of every day live now to the
best army in the world. feel free to insult me to relieve your
pressure.i know where it is coming from. please do not feel that we need
the usa to much, we have more reliable bussiness partners for canada
because every deal ever made with the usa is only being honored if it is
good for you guys.nobody ever wins dealing with the usa, not until
reliable people start taking over. hope george from usa is one of them.
he might like it.you see i can tell you without insults. can you? |
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| us serviceman, you are so right. but to
the extremists, if you guys kill a so called freedom fighter that is
considered wrong. how fked up is that?!?! i know if the insurgency was
gone and clerics like al-sadr would quit spreading hate, iraq would be a
very peaceful nation that would be rebuilt very fast. |
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| chump: if your going to spout lies, ie
sodomizing, then your going to get this yankee all ranzi...whaterver
that means. base your rants on fact...simple and plain. you get all
worked up and start saying s/h/i/t you know nothing about. and yet
again, i did not vote for bush and do not support this war. i have told
you this 10 times but you only have one argument. if an american defends
anything we are instant bush lovers, don't take out of context, and want
to kill the world for oil. your narrow view of things ****eon holes all
american opinions. |
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| this is for puke from puke ville: just
like i promised: the ratts are leaving the sinking ship. now there are
only 32 coalition accomplices left, with more leaving. other countrys
have come to realise that the war against an immaginary opponent is
sheer lunacy and way to expensive. countrys have other priorities now
adays than to back up a loosing battle. jeff is right. only a total pull
out would show the world that the usa is willing to pick up the peaces.
and please: do not insist to help, wait till you are asked. the mere
presence of a small invading force would only be a pebble in an iraqi
sandal. |
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| burislav from bulgaria. tell the iraqis
some other noble alternative as to how they should liberate their
country from the ****ic occupation powers. you say that you liberated
them from saddam but iraqis and whole world say no and that the
occupation is illegal. bulgarian soldiers should rebel against their
governemnt stand to send troops to iraq to involve in this illegal war. |
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| sup kev. i know wut you're sayin. but
hard to say usa is actually there to help iraq. why the heck do you
wanna help iraq for nothing in return? all reasons(excuses) from your
government have been bull s/h/i/t as you might already know. it's hard
for non-american to buy what your government is telling and those who
claim and posting usa's intention is pure sound all not so convincing.
cuz i'm very sure americans don't really care about innocent iraqis
dying as long as their troops are safe. look at the issues of rwanda. |
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| it seems to me that most americans
supporting the so called "war on terror" no longer believe in bush´s
talk about "good and ****", "fight for democracy and human rights", etc.
you seem to realise that bush in reality had alterior motives for going
to war, right? add to that notion, the facts that saddam had no wmds and
that there were no links to the perpetrators of 911. what is then left
to believe in? that your leader, although with other objectives in mind
than making lives better for the iraqi people, and despite overwhelming
facts showing that you attacked an unarmed and relatively innocent
nation, you still think he's doing the right thing? with an iraqi
uprising on your neck, much, much worse than anything saddam
experienced? why do you still support the war? please explain to a
stupid swede... |
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| if sweden was run by a dictator like
saddam, i would probably like to be liberated by a democratic country.
but if this liberation included half of my family gettting killed and
living in a society with no food and clean water, no medicines and bombs
falling every second day, year in, year out, for ten years or more, i
don't think i would cherish democracy and liberation from dictatorship
that much. and if the "liberator" had alterior motives behind the
liberation, for example, economical and political, i would probably
start looking on him more like an occupier than a liberator. this fact,
together with hatred and despair because the "liberator" had killed so
many of my loved ones, would in the end probably lead to me joining the
resistance... |
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| peter from sweden,saddam had no trouble
because he just gassed who he did not like or killed in a manner of his
choice.and if you do not want people to think your stupid do not call
youself stupid even if you do not mean it.all of the people on this site
do not understand english well and take it out of context,as you can see
by some of the answers. |
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| this is just inhuman and very brutal.
this is what these islamic fanatics no-brain are all about. even in
other peoples war, even enemies deserved respect. but these are the
islamic fanatics. no shame bottom animals. |
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| the war on iraq was all based on the
assumption that saddam had wmds and was preparing to hit the world. bush
wants us to believe this urged the entire world to fight in and get a
piece of oil. yet blair said wmds may never be found, in other words
they never existed. what is bush explanation for his assumption? he will
not take a chance to explain or apologize at least to the iraqi people
for his mistakes. george from canada; i suggest you respect yourself and
do not say “all of the people on this site do not understand english
well and take it out of context”. let see how many languages do you
speak other than english? at least these people you are talking about
are educating themselves to learn languages. can or do you speak
arabic?? |
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| george from canada: according to
cia-officer stephen c. pelletiere, saddam never used gas on his own
people: "pelletiere says the united states defence intelligence agency
investigated and produced a classified report following the halabja
gassing, which it circulated within the intelligence community on a
need-to-know basis. "that study asserted that it was iranian gas that
ki11ed the kurds, not iraqi gas," he wrote in the new york times.
pelletiere write that these facts have "long been in the public domain
but, extraordinarily, as often as the halabja affair is cited, they are
rarely mentioned." pelletiere wrote that saddam hussein has much to
answer for in the area of human rights abuses. "but accusing him of
gasing his own people at halabja as an act of genocide is not correct."
(from inter press service, london, july 2) |
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| peter from sweden – for once i agree with
you. indeed you are a ‘stupid swede’ as you term yourself. #1, regarding
iraq, you ignore saddam hussein’s cruelties and focus instead on the
rare times the u.s. stumbled. #2, you are not rational about israel. the
issue is beheading of bulgarians, in iraq, by arab terrorists. what is
all this mossad black/false flag ops – as if the israelis needed that to
make the palestinians look cruel (they do a darned good job of it on
their own). i wonder if you are not yourself a black flag op from some
swedish psych ward. |
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| there is an iraqi man on here telling
everyone what is really happening and he is in baghdad. please read ali
from iraq's post he is telling the truth. he is the one living through
all of this . god bless all of you and keep you in the palm of his hand. |
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| kamel in usa and iraqi in usa: what are
you doing here? if you so hate the us, why did you come to the country
that probably welcomed you with open arms? i agree with the us soldier
that if insurgents quite firing on them, another shot would never be
fired by the us. for the arabs that continue to say that 9/11 was
actually the work of the us and the zionists: are you totally deaf and
illiterate? bin laden and his group have taken credit for the terrorist
attacks. they are arabs...not americans or jews. what is it you don't
comprehend about this. while i have no fondness for bush, when he said
he was going to go after those who brought terror to the us, he did
exactly that. the us took great effort to limit civilian damage. don't
you realize what they could do if they decided not to worry about
civilians? let the rebuilding begin. |
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| yee haa logician... nice one. there are
so many hand wringing, mamby-pamby european and canadian sissies on this
sight it is hard to take. they hate america becasue they are jealous.
their countries and cultures are being absorbed. when one feels
inadequate, it is easy to call others names. when someone needs some
heavy lifting (****, communism, natural disasters, etc) they call the
usa. when they don't need to be saved, they gripe. grow up people and
take your medicine. we are the light for the world. not perfect, but the
best we have. |
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| nik from balkans, if you are angry at the
turks, i am angry too at them they hanged and killed our people too,
they killed arabs and muslims in their dark days, it seems you are the
one who need to go to school and difrenciate between arabs and turks.
digitalbytch: if you are telling me that usa is offering its technology
to iraqies to improve their lives, i think you know the meaning of a
word spelled like this "sanctions", iraqi people suffered because of usa
ignorance and false calims for the last 25 years, all what usa want in
the area is their own interests, after all the damage done to iraq you
are telling me that iraq need us technology, how pathetic. well you
better pick up some iraqi existing technology and wait for better one in
the making. |
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| ibrahim you go against the theory that 2
wrongs don't make a right. i'll take what the wise ali from iraq has to
say over your perverse hate guided rhetoric. remember it was you who
challenged me to a fight first then you backed down when i said ok let's
go. you are a pathetic loser. |
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| the bulgarian soldiers in iraq are
professional peace-keepers. that is how we, the bulgarian people, see
and think of them. that is how the bulgarian goverment sees them - as
peace-keepers and nothing else. many of these professional soldiers have
already served in bosnia, kosovo, afghanistan and cambodia - some
already have a few tours of duty under their belts - and were never
cosidered occupiers by the locals. quite the contrary. they are under
strict orders not to fire their weapons - in any way, shape or form -
unless attacked directly. they can't arrest, detain, search or kill
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| peter from sweden -- a further note: i am
impressed by how fast you are able to research your responses and come
up with these quotations from the new york times. you must have some
prodigious memory and must be a super fast typist. or perhaps you are
not ‘peter’ at all. the manner in which you reel off stock answers makes
me think that you are a ‘peter committee’ of apologists for al qaeda,
hamas, hezbollah and other agencies of arab terror, parceling out the
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| ibrahim from canada: who said bulgaria is
bowing to us pressure? the insurgents??? there are many europeans that
are proud to support this cause, if not you... aahh, forget it. you
can't even spell, why am i telling you anything beyond what a 3rd grader
would comprehend? also, csh in cali: am i not afforded, via my right to
free speech, the opportunity to tell you, "if you don't like it, get the
**** out"??? |
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| jason from the usa i posted an apology on
an earlier article. it was wrong for me to question your patriotism. you
served your country and have my full respect. my sincerest apology. |
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| ibrahim. please read the unmovic report
from mar '03. you can find it on the official un site. it is interesting
reading, especially all the parts where the former iraqi government
documents the usage of wmd, to prove that they have none left. like 4000
tonnes of cw agains iran! |
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| logician from usa: lol! =) as usual the
stupid americans starts to insult when they have nothing meaningful to
say. everyone who disagrees is an enemy, right? american democracy in
the 21st century? what's different between you guys and the nazis,
fundamentalists (of all religions) and communists? i say nothing at all.
but you are so brainwashed with stupid patriotic bs, lame hollywood
movies, a schoolsystem where 18-yearolds don't even know where europe,
africa or asia is on the worldmap, no one speaks any other language than
english, etc, etc. you stuff your faces with fatty food, watch some more
tv ("sports! leno!") and scream obscenities the rest of the time. when
you're not buzy shooting eachother or hating the rest of the world (who,
according to you, are nothing but ungrateful and "jealous" of the us),
that is. tg i'm european! =) |
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| oh peter, much of what you say has a ring
of truth to it. but with only 5% of the world's population, we produce
33.5% of the gdp. not bad for a dumb bunch of cussing, tv watching,
mono-lingual retards. examine your soul and you will see the seeds of
jealousy. the truth will set you free. who would you rather have in our
place? europe? france? china? get real. |
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| false"ali"from"iraq" and "gorgeous" debby
from"usa" "the land of native indians" no baby debby ur hero is afalse
one he is not iraqi and he s like u an american basterd ,well he s
basterd u r **** ,and now here s his exposure a question read and answer
in arabic عدد خمس مدن عراقية موزعة على الشمال و الجنوب؟hhhaha basterd u
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| peter and hope from germany.you see you
took it out of context hope.when it is said all the people do not it is
meant that everyone does not understand.not that all or everybody does
not.i am just saying that all or everybody might not understand that
peter is not saying he is stupid which i think he is not.and peter i
meant he was gassing the kurds.does that make him better to you.i hope
not. |
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| peter from sweden, notice logician's post
don't really consist of logical explanation rather an insult just
because his view is different from yours. do not reply every thread he
posts. he ain't worth a word. he's suffering from "no growth, mindless
struggle". try to reason your opinions, logician. |
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| hey sparky from usa us canadians are not
whining or complaining about the us at all(at least no one that i know).
you can't expect that we have to kiss your ass because we have the
longest unprotected border in the world,i mean how do you think that all
the drugs and us criminals get here into canada,it's a catch 22
situation for americans and canadians. |
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| peter from sweden. my daughter has a
fairly good knowledge of spanish, is learning russian this summer and
will spend two weeks in russia next summer. she is 15. regards, michael |
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| hey jj from canada. touche'. i'll give
you that one, ha ha :-). i know all canadians are not negative, just a
ton in here. i live 40 miles from you in wa state. |
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| robert from canada you are such a low
life disgusting person. i know all canadians are not like you because i
have "snowbird" friends that i see every winter and they are nothing
like you are. they are kind loving people that do not hate the us, they
love coming here to keep warm in the winter and they love the people
here . you are making your fellow countrymen look bad so please shut up
with the us slander. |
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| just wanted to tell you guys. all your
pro or anti war posts are well respected and read if they consist of
logics and reasons. personally i appreciate those who post here with
right intention, thereby i learn and get to adopt ideas and views from
all over the world. pointless insult is where misconception is born and
eventually results in leading to hatred towards each other. |
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| doug from canada -- fair enough, you
caught me with my emotions showing. i want to always be rational but its
hard to do so in 850 characters. peter is so glib, so sure and (from his
style of speaking and his intimate knowledge of u.s. trivia) so
american, that i can not believe that he is 'of sweden' tho he may be
'in sweden'. his branding of those that he disagrees with as nazis, i
find infuriating. it reminds me of the nazi government's official
response to the kristalnacht pogram in 1938. after synagogues were
burned, businesses ****ed and 100's of people killed across germany, the
government fined the jewish community 2 billion marks for provoking the
anger of ordinary germans. |
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| another demonstration of "freedom
fighters heroism" now all that is required is the nkvd/ ss, north korean
police, pol pot style response, for every hostage 100 prisoners and
their families relocated (into a pit). how about some constructive
comment in this forum, again answer, if you can read, the issues raised
by ali of iraq?? yes amir of malaysia - it would be nice if an election
could be held in iraq, but how can one hold an election without
intimidation in the security of a ballot whilst ****s are blowing up,
murdering civillians? have a happy day |
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| logician from usa. the nazis burnt the
synagougs, the americans are burning the mosques. i still remember when
they didn't stop the bombing during ramadan. believe me. you are not one
bit better than the nazis were in the eyes of the world. the only
difference is that you are stronger than they were, and will
unfortunately, never be punished for your crimes. |
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| arab jews get a life. deal with each
other no ges any thing done by killing each other. talk it out and get a
long . if you were my kids i'd slap ya. |
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| i find it very ironic that my parents who
are from norway who passed along time ago thought so well of america.i
am born in the states and always thought people from
sweden,norway,denmark etc liked us.guess i learn things all the time.as
i write this i relize it is unimportant.but i see it did not take long
to forget about the headless guy in the jumpsuit from the posts
including mine.just shows this will pass as all does and people will go
on doing whatever best serves there purpose.good luck and may that
bulgarian rest in peace. |
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| i would rather have the us without the
neocons in dc hi-jacking your country, ok? the us used to be a shining
beacon for many good things. but not any more. if you choose to let
ignorant patriotism blind you from seeing that, fine, let it be that way
then. but don't come whining when the rest of the entire world hates you
(we're getting there, whether you like it or not). but oh, i forgot,
that's just because the rest of the world is "jealous", right? do what
the f.ck you want - drop nukes on china and europe, ki11 everyone that
doesn't kiss bush´s, wolfowitz´, perle´s, feith´s, wohlstetter´s,
rubin´s, wurmser´s, rumsfeld´s, sharon´s, dov zakheim´s feet... you just
do it because "it's an ongoing fight against **** and we're doing the
lord´s will", isn't it? good night, friends! |
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| sick nik from bulgaria.whome r u lieing u
know that ur country had committed an atrocity by invading another
soverign country.all the **** american propoganda u know as i know s
rubbish and yet u r repeating it.u r mature enough to know that invasion
is invasion and occupation s occupation .full stop.u participated in
that atricious invasion and instead of blaming the criminal who s
america and ur government u r blaming the victim,is that fair mr nik?let
ur concience answer if u have one.u keep talking about turky dear turky
was as bad for us arab as for u.under their ottman empire we were left
behind while europ prospered,moreover they r the best friend to our
enemy usa and isreal.so u blame us for what turky did to u,again is that
fair? occupation =resistance and relegion has nothing to do here.u
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| let me guess which one of u will blame
this killing on the jews ???? i know someone out there will say its
their fault. its like the majority of people who comment on this site
feel that the us and the jews are the cause of every single problem in
the world. and if you feel that way grow up and quit being a victim. you
want to beat the us and the jews? then quit feeling sorry for urselves,
if not shut up! |
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| do they have decaf in sweden, peter?
yikes. you are wound a little tight, man. the usa is the best choice for
world leader. not perfect, but who is better? go take a nap. you know we
love you here, peter. take it easy. put your weapons down, ha ha |
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| chris from canada – you have a persuasive
way of speaking with a nice turn of the phrase, even inserting a bit of
symmetry in your sentence (nazis burn synagogues, americans burn
mosques). however it is merely propaganda and it does not hold up under
examination. perhaps a mosque was burned somewhere sometime (although i
doubt it – don’t you think al j. would trumpet it. i believe you do read
al j. i do.) if i am a nazi in the “eyes of the world” (and there you
may be correct), that fact alone does not make me a nazi. in the 14th
century, almost everyone in the world thought the earth was flat. the
fact the people equate america with nazi germany (or israel for that
matter) merely means that people are growing up with an irrational
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| every body; mazen wite in arabic "i" "am"
a "****" . . -and yes, his arabic is almost as bad as his english. now
mazen, please translate this to english for everybody; "boos teezi, inta
sharmoot" -uh, i mean "inti sharmoota" -in yor case mazen. "inta humara,
sadekie" -mazen thats the berber arabic, but you know what i mean. |
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| aa from uk: when bush blames "al qaeda"
for 9-11, no sane people say that he puts blame on all muslims or arabs,
right? or when someone says that kaddaffi´s secret police was behind the
lockerbie-disaster, no one can say that it´s an "anti-arab-statement",
right? but when someone (me for example) points out that the only ones
who benefit from these horrible beheadings of foreigners in iraq,
basically is sharon (and bush), and that the mossad is famous for
fighting their wars using deception and false flag ops, then suddenly
i´m blaming all jews. where's the logic in that? why is it ok to blame
arab and muslim groups and organisations for advanced and "****"
conspiracies without being a racist, but considered extremly
anti-semitic and racist to raise even the slightest suspicions against
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| following your logic peter, i guess all
swedes are to blame for those ****py meatballs you guys invented. not to
mention that whole viking scourge 1) all the 9/11 hijackers were arab.
2) no one says the israelis are without blame. 3) the semsless violence
like beheadings is very similar to the behavior of the vikings. hey, i
am starting to profile your biases here, ha ha. remember... decaf. |
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| peter from 'sweden' - i guess you are
having difficulty falling asleep. lets examine your last post. almost
every sane person accepts that al qaeda was behind 9/11 -- that's a
99.99% certainty. lockerbie and libya, lets say 85% (some still think
syria had a hand in it.) mossad decapitaing people in iraq to make arabs
look bad, lets be generous and give it 0.05% possibility. with your
reasoning, since all of the above are possible (true) therefore all of
the above are reasonable (patently false). therefore, the israel secret
service is as bad as the arab terrorists (false). the comments in
parentheses are my own. |
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| sparky: i'm almost starting to like
you... in fact, i have tons of american (and canadian) friends, most of
them are really nice people (that´s why the us gets away with all this
bush-scheit, you know). you're right, the vikings were a bunch
of****king b.a.s.t.a.r.d.s. r.a.p.i.n.g french women, burning english
villages, chopping of munk´s heads... we must have been those days´
equivalence of the us marines... just kidding, ok? hmmm... maybe it
actually is swedes gone crazy behind the beheadings in iraq? the swedish
chef with the sharp knives in the muppet show, remember him? you never
know, the world's strange these days. btw - decaf is for american
sissies... ;) now i'm definetely going to bed! |
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| and (peter from sweden), the fact that
this kind of logic seems so appealing to you does in fact raise the
suspicion that you might in fact be 'extremely anti-semitic'. have i
convinced you? i doubt it. but perhaps someone else out there will read
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| as a soldier for the united states army i
can honestly say that i will never understand this war. but as an
american and a soldier i will go anywhere to fight for my country.
regarding iraq we don't want to take over anything we are just there to
serve and protect all we want is freedom for ur country, just as u have
families so do we. we are not monsters nor are we ur enemy we are there
to help. for those who behead innocent people to get ur message through
blood is never the answer, blood just creates more violence. god bless
the united states and all those who seek for freedom......... |
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| logician: rest assured, i have nothing
against the jewish religion. not more than christianity or islam, that
is. jews are alright people (and here comes the the usual cliché: "i
know many jews, some are really good friends..."). i just have a big
problem with zionism as it manifests itself today. and neoconservatism.
and nationalism. and blind patroitism. and communism. and religious
fundamentalism. and so on.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....... ;) |
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| peter, allow my input. your statement:
"the only ones who benefit from these horrible beheadings of foreigners
in iraq, basically is sharon (and bush)". are not the philippines
pulling out because of the risk of a beheading? from here it looks like
they are, and if so, who does that benefit? clearly not us, we are
rather miffed about it. so, who? regards, michael |
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| peter from sweden -- i believe you are
sincere in your last post. furthermore i have no problem with your views
about israel, its government and its society. (i do wish you would avoid
the term zionist. it seems to me that it's rapidly becoming a code
word). now i am going into the realm of pure speculation, if you want to
tell me i'm totally off base, it's ok. you are entitled. i think you are
about as swedish as my uncle hymie. you can not be anything but american
based on your way of expressing yourself. my theory (assuming i am
correct) is that you are very radical in your views and to admit that
you are really peter from peoria or peter from tulsa would send a
message that someone could think like you do, speak like you do, in this
country without being decapitated. that sort of undercuts your basic
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| i am so sick and tired of hearing about
how horrible the us is....especially from people who live here. if it is
so horrible, please leave. why stay? if you're embarrassed by this
country, leave. go somewhere else and see how you like living there. we
could care less where you go. just leave. only people who love this
country and who support this wonderful country should live here. isn't
it interesting that everyone from foreign countries come here? why? if
it is so horrible, why do they come here? it's because they know it is
the land of opportunity...the land of the free...the best on earth! |
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| so when is patriotism a negative
characteristic. that is the difference between most americans and the
rest of the world. our country was founded by patriots. if you are an
american that sits behind a desk and find yourself complaining because
you are inconvenienced when you travel overseas just remember what your
descendents went through to get to this country and many of them fought
for our way of life that you take for granted everyday. be a part of the
solution and not the problem. support your country instead of betraying
it. |
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| martha and tbb. sweeter words were never
spoken. i agree. everyone beats up on us until they need to save sudan
or provide earthquake relief or have our aircraft carriers show up off
their coasts to discourage one of their enemies from attacking them.
this is a great country - not perfect but we always try to be better.
regardless of how it hurts. we are strong - but we are fair. we do not
colonize. we feed and provide medicine for the world. but people snipe
at us. that is the burden of the great. it is a compliment in a way. you
don't see france, germany or sweden risking lives to free people living
in tyranny. that is our job. thankless, but our burden. :-) god bless
the usa |
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| logician from usa. bad guess. peter uses
the ripe network for his internet connection, it is based in amsterdam.
he is definately located in europe. you use verizon. regards, michael |
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| tbb. by the way, the europeans are not
patriotic becasue they are actively trying to give up their soverienty
to the european union. they view the nation state as a bad thing. the
larger socialist goal is what they desire. the usa and its
"independence" flies in the face of the euro-centric and united nations
oriented world view they hold. they seek an order that france and
germany control - not the usa. thus they nitpick at us over this and
that. one thing for sure, we cannot trust old europe anymore - except
the uk. teh new europe is much less hostile. bottom line - our system
outproduces them and always will. with that comes real power. |
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| it maked me sick whenever i hear people
being slaughter or bombed.these kind of barbaric act is certainly not
acceptable. these apply to the freedom fighters and coalitions troops.as
for the freedom fighters i can understand that they have nothing to
loose since they have lost everything due to this illegal war of bush
and its allies.i belief the freedom fighters will keep on growing every
day until the coalition troops is totally our of their country.for the
coalition troops to die in iraq is totally madness.is it worthy to lost
your love one knowing that the war in iraq is created by bush for his
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| it is not an illegal war. not at all.
what law did we break? can't be illegal without breaking the law.
remember the united nations resolutions? nothing illeagl here. the sad
thing is, you would rather have saddam still in power. the arabs cry
about their rights, but seem very happy when the mass graves fill up by
their own hand. i don't get it. why is there no democracies in the arab
world? not one. the nay-sayers seem fine with that. sad |
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| micheal g. from the usa - just goes to
prove that you should never buy a stock or bet on a horse based on one
of my tips. thanks for enlightening me. |
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| kamel from usa, iraqi from usa & jamila
from us-as long as your are living in here the american are the "us" and
the "we." therefore, if you call the americans invaders, criminals etc.,
you are describing yourself. you can be against the war without these
kinds of demonizations.if you feel so strongly that everything about
america and its people are bad,leave. i doubt you will find many other
places you will like better where you could even begin to criticize the
government in such safety. as to your rants about some huge islamic army
rising up to kill us all, get a clue. the peoples of the middle east,
particularly their rulers could never put aside their petty power
struggles long enough for such a thing to happen in my lifetime. as to
robert in canada - get a life. every time i check this board you are
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| seriously, why are so many muslims
bashing the west living in england, canada, and australia. like mazen,
you say you are from syria but how come you live near st. albans or near
london? if you are so unhappy with the west than how come you live off
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| ibrahim from canada, you are wrong. the
captors demanded the release of "all iraqis held in iraq prisons" by
coalition forces indiscriminately (including criminals). it has nothing
to do with bulgarian troops there. those truck drivers didn't have
anything to do with the war, either; they had delivered a car (for sale)
to an address in iraq. they worked to support their family, there's no
reason to kill them. even i don't support the war in iraq but i feel
unfair when people accuse the us for everything wrong. there were
earthquakes in iran, was that because of the shock created by the us
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| i simply cannot believe anyone who posts
a comment on here that we are there entirely for our benefit. esp when
you consider that we are losing american lives.. working up on one
thousand at this point. i have friends over there and they send me
emails that state we americans only see the negative on our media. they
are thanked daily in baghdad for liberating them of the terrorist
hussein. for any coward to sit in canada and say how bad we are.i dare
you to walk into our country and say that to president bush. bush has
taken a no bs approach to terrorism and freeing the world of the
attrocious acts they commit. no matter what politics landed us
here,there is one thing that is most important. iraqi's and their
ability to taste freedom for the first time. i did not vote for bush
last election. but you can **** sure believe i will this year. |
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| what a disgustingly insensitive folks you
americans are. you are killing, maiming iraqis, destroy their homes and
their livelihoods and have the impertinence to expect them to be
grateful for it. i must say, you are a bunch of a-holes or you are just
plain insane. you remind me of serial killers who have a perfect
explanation why they do it. and they, too are convinced that what they
do is good for humankind and the victims. i feel like vomiting when i
read that you are mixing god into this. the god i know will never bless
murderers. because that is what you are. your president, your soldiers,
and every one of you who supports this war. |
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| mazen you are sick… 1. who can have
internet in the dictator’s country like syria? 2. why you are crying for
saddam – if he had succeeded in kuwait, you were next – to make you
slaves there. 3.the embargo to iraq was unsuccessful thanks mainly to
france (“opposing the war”), which was well profiting from the cheap
iraqis oil. this way saddam got 4bln $ in his personal accounts, instead
for food and medicines. 4. as a bulgarian i am proud of my country and
for the help for liberating iraqis – nobody have to expect that we’ll
bow to the terrorists. once we start the job, usually we are trying to
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| مازنmazen from سوريةsyria - you are such
an ****-stupid person..your talking is none sense.. you should be in a
place where all born to kill and destroyed innocent people.. i'd rather
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| it is for sure that the reason for the
war in iraq was not for the weapons – it will be naïve to think about.
so the real reason was to clean that part of the world before it is too
late and new hitler is on power there. after attack at wtc there were
not that many options here. you could imagine if somebody attack eiffel
tower or reichstag… france and germany will be the first to ask for nato
help to attack and clean the middle east from the growing terrorism
activities there. now they just don’t want to share the price. they want
the security for free… so please peter and other west europeans, don’t
be that foolish. yesterday the terrorists attack us, today spain,
tomorrow – any country in the world. this needs to be stopped – you
cannot negotiate with the animals, living in 15ac (bc – no difference),
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| the middle east is a region gone coco.
people with bad behavior (islamic maniacs) using god, to do this and
that. its filled w/terrorists and being terrorized. culture of fear and
ill will to mankind other than what they beleived in. area full of
tyrants and dictator regimes. oil revenues consentrated on powerfull
elites who preserve the ignorance of their ignorant people. wake up you
people. israel has nukes and iran will have one too. what a scary
fireworks! |
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| not hard to see why this world is the way
it is.reading some of these posts make it clear as day.sad situation but
as all it will also pass and life will go on.luck to you all and try to
stop hateing eachother so much.forget the last part i know it useless. |
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| well i remember that statue of saddam
coming down..remember what flag was put up on the statue first...it was
an american flag not an iraqi flag...anyone else remember this? i sure
as hell do...to say america doesnt have a hidden agenda your very
naeive...also america cannot afford to nation build...look at the dollar
its about worth as much now as the mickey mouse money you get in
canada..with a spiralling foreign debt 33% gdp is pretty irrelevant..i
feel sorry for the people of america..bush will get another 4..he'll
play his usama is dead card in october...your country is falling
apart...nation building is only going to accelerate the process..empires
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| please stop the earth's turning, because
i want to get down! i can't understand why the religions separate us,
the people. bulgaria isn't a paradise, but on our land do live people of
all existing religions and we live without war. i have and i want to
have more friends from all the earth, because i agree the difference of
all the people. our soldiers are in iraq, like they were in kosovo and
bosnia, only to help and to keep the peace as far as it's possible. our
soldiers didn't kill anyone in iraq. ask the iraqi government for our
help for the people in kerbala, iraq. we are in iraq not to help usa
economics, we don't like bush but really because we believe that every
little support is a help from human to human. thank you very much. i
want only to be friend with all of you, i respect all religions and i
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| to the iraqi living in the usa theres a
plane flying to the mid east tonite get on it. ohh yeah you might just
have to leave what you are enjoying here in the usa. talk about
exploitation you come here to obviously get out of iraq for some reason.
then you sit here and criticize our policies leave we don't need any
more dead beats here. you come here for freedom and a better life but
then you complain about the same things you came here for. what is it
education, money, tax free living in exile, jobs, or what. i don't want
you here i don't need you here. as they say around my part of this great
country if you don't like it leave it. don't come here hiding from a
country you obviously had problems with and complain about where you
live now. go back to the sand, the heat, and the oppression. there were
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| peter from sweden: i liked your post on
the israeli "maariv international" newspaper's ****. the one titled "are
all jews crooked"? with that one title, you made abundantly clear what
you're all about. sieg heil peter, der neue fuhrer! |
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| the bulgarian government must rethink on
its policy on iraq. the wmd's were absent, there was no terror link.
then why the hell is keeping its troops in iraq. is it not because of
the blind support to the usa, o comeon if u live life on principles and
truth and rule being accountable your country's will be respected by the
world community. stop being a puppy of usa./ as for the main headline
comment ....orange jumpsuit...is it not the same uniform guantanamo bay
detainees are forced to wear. and these detainees r also being held
illegally by the americans ****s. |
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| hey iraqi from usa: don't people in this
country have the right to say what's on their minds? obviously, you come
on this ****, a citizen of this country, and continue complaining about
our foreign policies around the world. this, of course, is your right.
so when people hear you bad mouth their native country and decide to say
some things that you may not like, you attack them and hypocritically
accuse them of backlashing? talk about double standards. guess what my
friend: that's there opinion of what they think about you. you don't
like it? tough. just realize there are still some people in this country
who support this president and are willing to sacrifice their lives for
the betterhood of this country's future. i am sick and tired of these
liberal pansies in this country. |
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| omar hassan from india, holding prisoners
is different from killing them. the two truck drivers are civillian
working to support their family. they have nothing to do with the war,
they had delivered a car (for sale) to an iraqi address. what was wrong
with that? put it this way, no matter how india & pakistan are not
getting along, would it have made any sense if pakistani muslims killed
an indian for delivering a car to a house in pakistan? let pray for
innocent people being killed by any sides. |
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| i think everyone wants freedom. every
country wants to live with their own government, freedom to do goods not
****. if a ask you, f ur an american and some foreign countries wants to
handle ur nation with their way of governing. d you think you willfollow
them? of course not. i know iraqui wants freedom. understand them
because they have their own belief. they have nothing to do but to
behead their victims. f u see the beheading scene in tv, and what you
feel for it, iraquis are feel also waht you feel of what you seen in tv.
anyway, what ive been talk here is freedom,we have geneva convention to
punish what country is doing immortal, maybe from this generation
america si the strongest ever, powerful, but we didnt know, wat if
someday one of the strogest country like iraq goes to be the
strogest?and usa wil conquered? karma goes on...... |
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| since we are so deeply in the process of
debasement of all things american and the manner in which the world
would be so, so improved by the absence of their philosophy, permit me
to bring a small point to the fore. if you are not muslim, according to
the doctrine espoused by these "freedom fighters", then you are ****.
which means that instead of being an issue of policy, or birth, or even
social standing, which seems to be filling these posts, it is am i jew,
christian, hindu, muslim, or whichever you might be. i believe that the
definition of monotheist in the "freedom fighters" view is there there
is only one god and he is mine. if he is not yours, then die. this, i
believe, is soundly refuted by all religious leaders in islam that i
have spoken with. so how are these "freedom fighters" supported by any
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| and before anyone should attempt to tell
me that this is not about religion but about oil, why is it that in
every case it is the former which is taken as the rationale for murder,
decapitaiton, mutilation, and the other holy acts that are undertaken?
this is about money. who has it, who wants, it, and where it should be
distributed. if i am to be robbed, then rob me; beaten, then beat me.
but do not cloak your conscience in the mantle of doing this under the
approval of any god. |
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| homer from philippines, if iraq had the
power & weapons that the us has now, "" it's the end of the world "".
why? they would use wmds to strike old enemies of iraq (and islam).
there are many countries happened to have wmds, too (like irael, the us,
russia, ...) they would surely strike back. then, you know what! |
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| omar, who told you bulgarian are there
for the wmd or for the terrorist? our soldiers are just peacekeeper in
iraq, not killer. so your thinking is starting of presumption that
saddam was legitimate in iraq. but who elect him – wasn’t he gain the
power through baatist’s coup? didn’t he make several wars on almost all
his neighbors? didn’t he kill innocent iraqis for political and
religious differences? finally didn’t he bankrupt one of the richest of
oil countries (****100bln $ dept), keeping his peoples dying hungry w/o
medicine and building tens of castles in the same time? so what is wrong
to be removed from power? i know – iraq’s quite totalitarian neighbors
don’t like the idea. the richest on the planet elite is feeling
jeopardized from the iraq’s example. so they are purring now money in
the foreigner terrorists in iraq. |
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| no excuse for beheadings. but maybe an
explanaion. read this article of sodimizing iraqis by us troops:
news.indep endent.co.uk/ world/middle****east/ story.jsp? story=541472 |
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| mazen, i think you are lying and ali is
telling the truth. you sound like an **** person. you need to get god in
your life and start loving instead of hating. god bless you. |
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| news of this hamas terrorist's death is
most excellent news indeed! i am most pleased to hear of this news, and
while some sausages are larger than others, some being large and some
quite small, i must admit that i am in possession of a sausage of the
larger variety. |
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| nothing will make me agree that beheading
inocent people has an explanation or excuse... and from today on noone
can make me believe that islam is a religion of peace as they try to
make us believe... |
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| only **** behead people. these are not
"freedom fighters" . robert from canada, if you think the us's ship is
sinking , please don't hold your breath waiting. or then again maybe you
should hold you breath and wait, we might be rid of you. |
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| dear robert, the actions of a very few
people in abu ghraib have been recognized as inexcusable by the entire
coc. those who undertook these actions are subject to ucmj and are being
prosecuted. the personnel in abu ghraib at the time were primarily
reservists. not that they were poor soldiers, but they were reservists
and were subjected to constant mortar, small arms, and rocket attack.
please note that these were harassment attacks as there was never any
possiblity of "liberating" abu ghraib. i do not recall seeing
photographs of iraq bodies being immolated, descrated, dragged through
the streets, and hung from a bridge. yet the oldest civilzation on earth
views the above as being cause for joy. of course the reflex reaction is
that if the us were not there none of this would happen, well, not that
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| a few things are strange for me - most of
the comments here have nothing in common with the article above - it’s
just talking place for the usual things of the life. people, one
innocent man is killed, he's not "executed", he's killed! isn't it too
serious for you? because for me it is! meet people in icq, not in the
article for the cruel murder of one man! because all normal people now
are suffering! and also - why almost all comments of "arabic" (better
terrorist) solidarity come from democratic countries. what are you doing
in such "places of ****"? - stay in al zarkaui's village and feel
yourselves happy! probably with your wives, if some fanatic don't kill
some of them with stones because of opening of their faces, for example,
and with your girls-children, kept away from school, because the coran
don’t permit them education! |
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| to jamila: do u know what the terrorists
who kidnapped the drivers want from bulgaria? no, they dont want our
troops out of iraq, they want us to free all women prisoners! thats
different from ur point of view & therefore its impossible thing for us
to do! i am so ****ed off of such posts like yours |
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| listen guys,i have read all of your
comments and for those which are radical...well you obviously need to
open your eyes and at least try to understand the driving forces/motives
of culture/way of thinking. as for the war in general it was something
which would have been done sooner or later by any american president.i
believe the timing was wrong and the situation untimely. i hate to hear
about such gruesome acts such as these, but on the other hand these
people's (iraqi insurgency) means as a political or military force are
dwarfed by such nations as the us. they do not see any other alternative
than this..and that is sad. the problem is that the people of the world
lack an undertsanding of eachother. all i can say to the radicals out
there is that you might do well to learn something from the other side
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| un unhappy poor man was killed in a
terribly demonstrative manner, a whole nation has been humiliated,
hatred had been given rise to ,brain- washed people jubilate….someone
has satisfied his own low wishes, someone has received very much money
/one wonders if the gold of the planet is enough?/, they can’t spend it
in a legal way… but many people talk about big politics, about moral
values….as long as they are far from the filmed horrors , comfortably
settled in front of their computers, a slimming diets being their only
worry. but the caravan goes on …. |
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| dave from usa: what the hell are you
talking about? "maariv international"? "are all jews crooked"? "sieg
heil peter, der neue fuhrer!"?!!?...... jesus, what's wrong with some of
you people..? can someone explain what he's talking about? to logical:
i'm glad that you believe me. but i'm actually swedish, born here,
raised here. guess i'm a living proof of the fact that "american
culture" (tv, movies, music, etc) is the strongest weapon when your
leaders seek world domination and build the new world order... =) |
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| ask yourself honestly, can you trust us
to confine your daughters in us prisons in iraq? the stories on ****
offences and cruelty on detainees in iraqi prisons by us keep coming up
one after another. release all the women and children and let the men
continue killing each other. good luck for both sides |
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| to the americans . no body is believing
your talk about democracy . you have been in afghanistan for the last
three years and look what is happening there . no rebuilding of
afghanistan no free elected government . the same old cia agent still on
top of cia appointed government . paul praimer stole two hundered and
fifty milions dollars from iraq before he leave according to ex iraqi
governor assmbly " bahar elouloum " . your assistant millitary captain
in iraq " general kemit " said that the us military forces are not
leaving iraq before five years from now . just tell me how would the
world trust what you say any more ? |
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| nikolay and other hungry bulgarians.what
a **** country is bulgaria.hhha u claim to be european,loll they refused
u hundred times rubbish.but i remind u what u really r .u r the best
street cleaners in lybia and the cheapest prostitutes in arab gulf
countries.look who r now talking about troop and army ,those long term
humilated tiny country .sall we ask turky again to come and do ur ass
and slave u for another 500 years ,or shall we ask soviet union to make
u his tail for another 70 years .we in arabic have a preverb says "look
the w a n k e r has got a wife and now threatening her with divorce"
.get up sick nation stop come to arab countries for begging in the
street but ur prostitues they can keep coming in millions -surely nikoly
here is one of them -becz they r so cheap .and keep sweeping our street
poor hungry bulgarian rubbish |
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| they did not post my message last time
but - i don't know why, but i'll try again. i was against the war, i was
defending muslims, i always hat ed bush. now i don't hear muslims
condemning this murd er and i am dissapointed. i took some time and read
most of the ****. it is terri ble - i had no idea it was so vio lent.
now nobody can tell me that isl am is a peacefull religion. you people
with your silence have turned me into a ha tefull person. i don't see
how creating enemies is of any use to you. i know i can't defend mu
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| to the americans who are asking other
americans to leave america because they are criticising the us
government policy in iraq . did you know that the majority of americans
are opposing the war in iraq ? did you want the majority of american
people to leave out of america because they are aginst the war in iraq? |
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| peter from sweden - good morning. i hope
you had a restful night. i did. i now believe you are swedish and
frankly i am very impressed by the effect of american culture. i like
the films of ingmar bergman and think the volvo is one of the best cars
in the world but i am sure in a million years i could not convince
someone that i come from stockholm. are you familiar with the ‘turing
test’. if so, in my view, you have passed it if applied to whether
someone has been raised in america. but back to logic. american culture
is simply the free market of ideas, produced by a heterogenous people,
who appreciate and respect differences. the motivation may be financial,
but it is not sinister. why, i must ask, if you feel it is a weapon,
have you so completely absorbed it? have you been unconscious? have you
had some kind of awakening? i ask this in all respect. i want to know
how can you so hate something that you must have worked so hard to
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| i want to remind all involved in these
horrific terrorist attacks in the middle east, america is watching. we
will not pull out. george w. is going to be reelected. your day is
coming! the usa has the capability to destroy your entire civilization. |
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| good morning! actually i do like your
country. or, to be more precise, i love most of the stuff coming from
the us - movies (although often stupid and semi-racist when arabs are
involved...), music, food, general conceptions about social interaction
and morality, your original constitution is the one of the best in the
world, etc, etc... as i said before, the us could be a true lightbringer
to the world if your leaders chose to. but: the last 30-40 years your
leaders have turned rotten. they have started and supported more wars
and bloodshed than any other government. they have helped bring down
democratic governments in bloody military coups. they have supported
terrorists and dictators and prevented democratic uprisings. they have
used wmds that to this day causes grotesque deformities in innocent
babies. clean your house and i'll love u even more... =**** |
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| dear,iraqi people,wake up!if u cant do
nothing for your good future,let us to help u.if u want to have normal
life-try to help yourself and stop this terorism!one day u will stay eye
in eye with this terorism and noone in d world would not want to help
u.u see that those crazy people dont stop at front of nothing.they
kill,becouse they like to kill,not becouse they want u to be free.dont
stay and watch this cruel action.clean your earth from d terorist if u
want to be part of d world,if u dont want to be slaves of d
terorism...ivailo and george...why its happend? |
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| initially i was opposing bush and his
invasion of iraq. many bulgarians didn't approve of sending our troops
there. what the terrorists managed to achieve now is unanimous support
for the coalition forces. nobody can have sympathy for animals who are
beheading innocent human beings, we have no doubts now whose side we are
on. we bulgarians now actually want to increase the number of our troops
there. there is no alternative - saddam is gone, and we cannot leave the
iraqi people in the hands of terrorists like this animal zarqawi. think
about everything that saddam has caused, tens of thousands of people
murdered, tortured and raped, the genocide on the kurdish people, his
terrible prisons (after all, the americans didn't build abu-ghraib), the
misery of the iraqi people while he was living in luxury in his huge
palaces. |
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| to peter from sweden. ok. you like
america. they have done some good things. you want them to be better.
your argument about america’s deficiencies has the only force of
repetition (“they have started - they have helped bring down - they have
supported - they have used –“) but the specifics are general, vague and
unconvincing. you indicate what you are against. you seem rather
rational (i apologize for the swedish psych ward crack.) what are you
for? i believe i have read that you believe that the violence against
‘occupiers’ (often so brutal, mindless and self-defeating as to stagger
the imagination) is either justified or the product of a black flag op
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| to all – its true that these postings
drift from the initial news items, the poor bulgarian who was killed,
decapitated and tossed in the river. but how much can one say other than
its sad, it’s a shame, pity the family, etc. so ultimately the debate
comes down to motivation, justification, good vs ****, political
philosophy, what actions to take, etc. its not that the bulgarian is
forgotton. people are trying to understand. most people that is. some
(mazen from syria) simply like to have an outlet for a hate-filled
screed. that’s ok. better the web than a bomb on a train. i happen to
think that al j. is not objective but i applaud their opening up this
site. i have never been blocked. by all means read al. j. but also read
haaretz and the j post. |
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| logician: i think that the iraqi
resistance against the occupying force is justified, yes. not that i
think that the resistance is that good for the iraqi people, but
according to all international laws concerning war, it is a just fight.
you can not call them terrorists when they attack military targets, no
matter how much bush would like to do that. then we have the attacks on
civilian targets... if they are deliberately aimed at non-warring
factions and people not supporting the occupying force, then it is
terrorism. the hostagetakings and the beheadings: there are strange
circumstances surrounding some of these events. that, and the fact that
basically only one part in this mess benefits from them, makes me
suspicious. on top of that we know for sure that mossad agents are
swarming in iraq like flies on manure. you never know, do you? |
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| mazen (btw the name translates as “oily”
in bulgarian), you cannot compare bulgaria, with all the democratic
institutions with syria – poor dictator country. there is no base. as i
remember your president now is the son of the previous assad..? so this
makes you as democratic as north korea, libya, and cuba. so if you were
clever syrian (no doubt you are stu.pid, or you are paid), you’ll ask
the coalition to come after iraq in your country and to relieve you from
the assad family. also somebody needs to remove the hamas and other
terrorist’s camps there. otherwise they will be many air strakes from
israel… you and your funny state cannot stop. |
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| peter, i posted this late last night our
time: your statement: "the only ones who benefit from these horrible
beheadings of foreigners in iraq, basically is sharon (and bush)". are
not the philippines pulling out because of the risk of a beheading? from
here it looks like they are, and if so, who does that benefit? clearly
not us, we are rather miffed about it. so, who? regards, michael |
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| michael g: it makes the arabs and muslims
look really nasty. which country in the region could that benefit..? it
makes many people in the world really disgusted with the iraqi
resistance and that in turn makes them more willing to accept increased
american violence against iraqis. it makes abu ghraib look less bad. it
paves the road for a loooong american occupation of iraq, which i'm sure
the neocons in dc wants. this in turn insures control over iraqi oil for
years to come and stengthens the security for israel. a long occupation
means that the us admin finally has gotten hold of a platform to launch
future invasions of arab states in the region. if iraq turned into a too
peaceful place, there would not be any need for a us presence there. and
that's not something bush et al would like to happen (although they say
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| peter, i can only post infrequently here
due to some restrictions put on me, so i will be unable to respond
further. but, you did not exactly answer my question, i will ask it
again: are not the philippines pulling out because of the risk of a
beheading? from here it looks like they are, and if so, who does that
benefit? these are two questions, please answer regards, michael |
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| to cj from usa, if g.w. bush is going to
win the election this time round, l'll have to pass! he does not fit be
a president of the kenya, let alone the president of the "united states
of america". thank you |
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| my heart goes out to the family of this
innocent man! and to all people who's life has been changed thru out
this w.a.r.!! i have lost 2 friends to this w.a.r trust me when i say i
know the pain they must feel**** |
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| peter, ppls in m.east are living at least
200 years behind the rest of the world and now is producing quite a
threat for the civilization. they are living in dictator country, or
theocracy country, or absolute monarchy. they still have the laws, which
are not exercised in europe for more than 100 years (or never been
there) - public executions (incl. beheading), killing the women with the
stones, cutting the arms, etc. that’s fine for the rest of the world.
but they start attacking others, terrorizing, pressuring sovereign’s
countries (incl. france) - what do you expect in return? if us did
nothing, tomorrow they will be even bigger attack on the financial or
trade institutions in world (in us, or in europe – doesn’t matter). and
instead they to come to live in modern times, we have to go back to
their medieval century. |
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| and peter, the only my disagreement with
current us president is that he send only ~135000 troops. it would be
much less painful and fast if initially he send ~ 400 000. now many
parts of iraq are not covered well and give a place for foreigner as
well as iraqis terrorists to hide. also i can say the real mistake is on
his father, who had the perfect big army there (~1mln soldiers), the un
resolution and didn’t change iraq 13 years ago. now it would be
well-forgotten problem. |
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| dont worry about one headless body,if you
want to see headless bodies go to the site where american army is
droping bombs. you can see many many headless ,armless,legless,hairless,
burn bodies of iraqi children,women,and old people,who could'nt escape
before bombs fell in their home and kill all of them.saddam,the
president of iraq, should ask american army to leave now,american alredy
made millions of raqi people headless,so they should leave now. |
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| hey peter. you last post is almost 100%
correct. and that is a good thing. someone needs to drain the swamp that
is the comglomeration of the mid-east countries. it is a mess and a
breeding ground for terror and misery. the usa and bush have the guts to
do it. you don't think that, if the west falls, that your pretty little
white neck would get spared when your turn came, do you. sweden is far
north, but your turn would come. ps. i do like swedish meatballs, ha ha |
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| peter from sweden – reading your last 2
postings i can only paraphrase ronald reagen, “there you go again”.
shall we follow your reasoning out to its logical conclusion. if the
islamists (i think that’s an accurate and non-perjorative term) build a
clinic or aid the poor, you will laud them. if they perform an act that
really disgusts and disturbs our human sensitivities, it is probably the
activity of mossad, (or israel, or the neocons, or whatever euphemism
you choose for you know who). isn’t that a sort of a ‘heads i win, tails
you lose’ situation. i respect you (strangely) but you are a political
opponent. if you look bad because you beat your wife over there in
sweden, i might benefit. does that mean i was the instigator of the
beating. sure israel has an interest in a iraq and may have agents there
(who doesn’t). if norway threatened to “burn half of sweden with
missiles” wouldn’t you want to know what’s going on there? |
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| i want to tell you only one thing: we
don't have a business in iraq! i think, that my country make a wrong
choise again!(not at first in our history) :( and we will take the
consequences in the future :( i'm sure, that in the future in bulgaria
will happened terroristic attacks, unfortunately because our politicians
(especially our minister solomonn passi (jewish**** :( and many and many
people will suffering without guilt :( |
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| i want to tell only one think! we dont
have any business in iraq :( the sending of our troops in iraq was a
very big mistake of our politicians, and in the future we will take
another horrible consequences, and many people without guilt (like this
two drivers) will be sufferig... my country (not at first in our
history) take a wrong side :( sorry about that! |
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| to this bulgarian in the us . i realy
think that your country should stick with europe instead of ****ing
americans ..you know what. you had no busness interfering in iraq's
business against the well of un unless you have plans for iraqies
children " same your country men and woman did for the 500 libyan kids
injucting them with hiv " sticking with the american in the unjust war
in iraq will bring you nothing but more hate in old europe and midle
east . i realy hope that the iraqi resistance will catch every bulgarian
man in iraq and slaughter them from their dicks instead of their nicks . |
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| well it may be coated with nice words ...
like war on terror...terror fight ..or what ever .. but the inner part
of the conflict is nit open... iam personal happy with the iraq group
that has decides to choap the heads of those who want the oil of iraq
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| logician: i understand what you're
saying. and yes, sometimes i'm too fast jumping to conclusions! =) but
then again, who isn't? the difference is who you choose to blame for
whatever has happend. ok, where was i? "disgusting stuff that muslims
do". of course they too do really horrible things. history is full of
them. and you hear of them time after time after time after time - on
tv, in movies and in western newspapers. and often "we" (the rich,
predominantely white christian/jewish pop in the world) explain their
terror by saying that "they are nothing but crazy muslim fanatics",
"they have no respect for human life whatsoever", etc. but when "we"
perform acts of terror, it's belittled and downplayed using advanced
logic and complicated chains of thought. the mossies: they have a
history of conducting false flag ops to blame the enemy. |
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| peter, i can only post infrequently here
due to some restrictions put on me. but, you did not exactly answer my
question posed quite a bit earlier, i will ask it again: are not the
philippines pulling out because of the risk of a beheading? from here it
looks like they are, and if so, who does that benefit? regards, michael |
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| michael g: "are not the philippines
pulling out because of the risk of a beheading? from here it looks like
they are, and if so, who does that benefit?". yes, the philippines are
pulling out because of the beheadings. it does not benefit the iraqi
resistance, because these philippines treated injured and sick iraqis.
they never constituted a military threat to the "freedomfighters". the
iraqi resistance has even set a price on the alleged perpetrator´s head
("al-zarqawi"), which means that these beheadings are not approved of
(to say the least) by the iraqi resistance. of course, you can find a
motif among "muslim fundamentalists" like "al qaeda" - they want to
bring chaos in iraq to be able to take over power and turn iraq into a
new taliban-country. but hey, to me it seems as farfetched as saying
that maybe mossad is behind it... ;) |
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| peter from sweden – i agree with you. we
absolutely need to avoid characterizing an entire group, nation,
religion, whatever, by the actions of a few. it is wrong and unfair to
talk about ‘arab terrorists’. i believe the vast, vast majority of arabs
are not terrorists. i am less certain whether they support terrorist
activities. i am very certain that they seem disinclined to criticize
terrorists. later in your post you state ‘but when "we" perform acts of
terror, it's belittled and downplayed using advanced logic and
complicated chains of thought’. are you suggesting that the peoples of
the middle east are deficient in using ‘advanced logic and complicated
chains of thought’. if that were the case, we would not have algebra! do
i detect a subtle double standard. is there beneath your privileged
western tendency to excuse and justify the idea that the peoples of the
middle east are somehow inferior? finally, you give too much power to
mossad. i think even the swedes would do a better job of pilfering a few
nz passports. |
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| logician: i mean that "we" belittle and
downplay our leader´s terror, by putting together complex "cause and
effect"-theories to excuse what "our" leaders have done. alternatively,
we strongly appoint one or two scapegoats among our "nomenklatura",
which then gives us peace of mind. which we definetely don't do when
pointing out atrocities conducted by people from other cultural spheres
(i.e. muslims). |
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| hey peter. did you just take a bong hit,
ha ha. what did you just say? how is sweden? how many muslims do you
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| sparky, my main man... everything´s fine
here in sweden. ****ty weather this summer, though (wonder if mossad is
behind that too..?). you know, we've got good stuff from amsterdam here
in europe. mix that with some mushrooms and your fingers just fly over
the keyboard! he, he... i'm realising now that i didn't answer dear
logician´s question (i think?)... hmmm. i'm not sure that i got it
right, but aren't arabs really good at defending their leader´s
shortcomings and the blood on their hands, in a very advanced way?
either it's israel´s fault or the us´... he, he... ;) |
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| you are right again, dear peter. the
muslims tenacity for denial is like a neighbor whose house is on fire
and they are out front complaining because a neighbor left a bicycle in
their yard and it makes the neighborhood look ****y. they cannot see
that they are on the cusp of a new "dark ages". america can see it. i
hope europe can see it to. |
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| the weekend is starting and i’m going
away. i won’t be posting anymore. peter from sweden, thanks for jousting
with me. you are a worthy opponent, although i submit that too much of
that stuff may have softened your brain. i hope you examine your
slogans. they seem more appropriate for cheerleading yells at a rally or
signs at a protest march. sparky from the usa – you are the coolest.
jumping in here and there, unexpected like a little imp or leprechaun.
deflating everyone’s pomposity. i loved it. ha ha. bye guys. have a good
weekend. |
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| later logician.... we shall meet again
peter.... hang in there. i had a good friend in high school who was an
excahnge student rom sweden. his name was haken westman. he is a fine
individual. later |
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| sparky and logician: take care. don't
drink too much. watch out for 'em scary terrorists (especially the ones
in moving vans)... ;) have a nice weekend, guys. |
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| what makes you think we didnt find wmd?
its pouring out of the sand over there.better known as the freedom
fighters... its killing the iraqi ppl in mass ammounts. |
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| people, get with the program, alzarqawi
does not exist, he died. why do you think the usa is bombing fallujah,
looking for alzarqawi? absolutely not, just playing the same old game,
trying to blame the zarqawi, please, i don't want to hear that name
again, because he doesn't exist, why can't anyone think about that. and
if you all so honest about rebuilding, remember afghanistan, anyone
heard of that name, what a joke, my friends you can't drink water if you
don't have one, now let's talk about some mossad, do you think they
don't exist wow,, look at new-zealand and what they upto, see youu |
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| i am sick to death of people saying that
iraq is a free country now. it is no different then it was 2 years ago.
theres still an **** dictator who is controlling the country(through a
puppet government)people are still being killed,people are afraid to
leave their homes incase they will be shot, america are not liberators
they are a killing machine, just like israel they take what they want
even if it doesnt belong to them. and as for the freedom fighters they
are fighting for the freedom of this country, they havnt killed as many
innocent people as the americans. america indulges in state terrorism
this is the real threat these are the people the world should be
fighting. it makes me sick that in this day and age people can get away
with such things, it also upsets me that no arab country is willing to
stand up to them. |
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| hey ash.. good point. talk your
countrymen into attacking the usa in iraq with your army... we would
crush you in about 20 minutes (with a 5 minute break). as bush says....
"bring it on". why did you not complain when saddam was there - or
complain about the dictatorship you live in now? your outrage is
selective and thus invalid. bring it on, baby... you can't have it both
ways. from your argument, you seem to prefer dictatorship to freedom
long term. that says more about you than you know. what are you afraid
of - that you cannot compete? |
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| naser, you believe to your
terrorist-president too much. all the worldwide specialists (even from
pasteur inst.) told you that the infection in this hospital in benghazi
is happen one year **** before bulgarians appear there. they claim the
infections were thanks to poor hygiene in the hospital. but you want our
blood, don’t you (as we recently have seen in iraq). doesn’t matter what
the investigators said, doesn’t matter the facts – we cannot bomb you
like mr. reagan, and so let’s kill them. the pity is that our citizens
spent so many years building infrastructure and medicine in libya – you
don’t deserve this barbaric. and so go to believe your president – he
only kills all his opponents (even abroad), and only blow two airplanes
(incl. lockerby) and one disco club (in berlin). so in these statistics
5 bulgarian lives for nothing?? |
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| cada país debe ser soberano de su
territorio y arreglar sus problemas sin intervención de otros países,
especialmente de aquellos que como en un juego de guerra despliegan sus
fuerzas armadas por todo el planeta, sin respetar el derecho
internacional, ni los organismos internacionales que ellos mismos
crearon, es increible que halla gente que apoya la invasión a irak, ya
que esta acción solo logró empeorar la situación en medio oriente, pero
lo que es seguro es que muchos políticos y empresarios llenan sus
bolsillos con el petróleo irakí, y con los contratos de la
"reconstrucción de irak". la libertad es para todos, no sólo para los
estadounidenses, mal llamados americanos, ya que americanos somos todos
los que habitamos el continente américa. |
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| the terrorists was killed one innoncent
bulgarian.do you know that bulgaria was always helping on arabian?do you
know how much arabian have finished their education here? how people
from yours are in bulgaria? bulgaria is an example not onlu for europe
but for the whole world for ethnus peace.when something bad happens in
arabian world,the most european protests.but when have you protested
opposite your terrorists?have you once showed then your dissagree with
them?is that your democration?lets all arabian help us to save the last
hostage because the fanatics will hear your voice.they hope that you
will keep silence,but the silence is not always gold-sometimes it costs
person`s life. |
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| i read i do not believe you people saying
there is no reason for the war as there mere no wmds found. isn`t
september 11 enough for a reason ? do not forget that the islam world
started the war on september 11 , not the american government if someone
atacks you what you do? |
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| arabs by nature are people who simply
want to run their mouth!! i mean: with saddam present, theyre crying,
and with america kickin him out theyre crying! why not just shut it up
and be thankful that america has sacrificied and fought for you? and so
what if america's aim is the oil. with america buyin oil, the income
will generate billions that would improve life in iraq. with saddam
present: that income generated nothing but palaces for saddam and
torture chambers for the people. wake up. |
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| makes me wish hitler did take control
over europe and the middle east,,,,,the only way to rule these people
who have no value on life is through fear and force,,,how can you be
nice to someone who just assume cut your headoff,,versus listening to
reason,,these people have been this way for ever,,and just to think
,,jesus was born over there,,,is there really a god???? |
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| so much hatred, so many sick people... i
had a better opinion for the muslims,but now i see how primitive are
some of them. to mazen from syria-continue to run your mouth; one day
you will be on the receptive end of all this violence. the question here
is not if us or arabs are right.the question is how humane is to do
these barbaric acts. you say:' a11ah is merciful'.well, where is your
mercy? violence comes back to you! |
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| dimitar=mitko, sorry about the twise-post
above. i can't believe that the bulgarians can be at reazon like that -
"the islam world started the war in 11.09"! this is a ****! u$a and
israel started this war many years ago! to my great regret, the
americans successfuly washed the brains of my compatriots :( and when
the bombs begin to exlpode in our major cities, i'll know why... |
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| skapani ,rezniatzi ,i va6te glavi 6te
padnat ako ate 4eli istoria ni6to ne ostava pri nas taka ,6te go
otnesete iako ,i vie ste uiazvimi . |
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| dear digitalbytch from usa, if you are
eccepting of the beaheading, will you eccept killing the innocent iraqi
people by the americans? what is the different the innocent people you
mentioned and the innocent iraqi people. do u ever think and the people
like you that human is ahuman. what u like the other person also likes,
what hate you is also the same. u don't want to be hurted, note also the
others are like you. usa has sent military there in iraq, and usa is
saying that the insurgents are doing bad deeds while the usa military
are killing, destroying. look the american helicopters are bombarding a
poor family and killing all of them, is that what the good deeds u
know?, note that iraqi people wants usa to leave their country, please
let us ask americans to come back to their motherland and leave
someone's country. gomma in england.. |
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| it's insane!!nobody can kill innocent
people like our citizens.so there is only one decision-to find and
destroy all these terroristic groups,because they are nothing,but
murderers**** |
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| hey sparky**** since when did it become a
competition?you seem to think that america is in control of the planet.i
assure you ''it is not''.because america has more weapons we are
supposed to bow to it`s command?ask who has more wmd`s?thats right
america.i say wmd`s should be eliminated from the planet and we should
''all'' be helping our fellow man.attitudes like yours sparky are
dangerous as eventualy someone will not allow you to control them.maybe
it`s time to stay home and clean up your own backyard, before you
infringe on other folks.killing is killing, but america seems to justify
it by false sence of control.just what do americans want in the long
run.i can tell you that the so called freedom to justify the auotomibile
industry alone is so dangerous that you don`t see the cost of spent
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Ibrahim
from Canada 
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